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Felight 5/11/2018 1:03 PM

Yes

What'd you do?

1:03 PM

How'd you do it?

1:03 PM

For how long did you do it?

I'm telling you right now

1:04 PM

Symbolism does not help us

But you haven't tried it though. You're making an assumption based on preference, which I'd understand if you'd said "I don't really want to try that." Of course, I'd ask why, but I'd probably understand. If you're just going to shoot down ideas while asking a question, then are you really searching for a solution?

Yes, we have tried it

1:05 PM

We tried it over and over again (edited)

1:06 PM

Never worked

Maybe you should try placebomancy. I'm told it works wonders.

Not for us

Not that I'd ever try it, but I though it might be something you're into.

It's not

1:07 PM

Symbolism and placebo don't do anything for us

Try reworking how you think about your identities, while avoiding an existential crisis if possible. Worked for Lumi. Not a serious answer.

Maybe you should try and systematically switch. Make some graphs and charts, document your results or lack thereof.

can't tell if joking

@Reisen I think we did that already

Ah. Missed the boat.

1:10 PM

Opt to making due with what's possible in your own system and giving up trying to fit us online peoples' terms and anecdotal experiences.

I'm not joking. Do not doubt the power of documentation.

I'm not trying to match people, I'm trying to reach my goal

A good note can save a life, y'know.

Oh, is the problem on your part and not your host's?

Idk

I assumed she's just bored or something but unable to leave the front.

Brb restarting phone

Punch her in the back of the mental head. Knock her unconscious.

1:12 PM

Violence, as history proves, is always the last and most effective resort.

It was often a first resort.

1:13 PM

That's basically how Tulpabug's system does it, though.

1:13 PM

As described by them, they wrestle or fight for control, forcing the other out of the front.

Sounds like my kind of party.

Just assuming ahead of time their system has had no luck with that.

1:14 PM

Personally, our system could never do such a thing. Without both parties' cooperation, nothing will get done.

I can get in control quite easily, she just can't go inactive or leave the front in any way

It's like sitting on someone because you want their spot. You're just both uncomfortable and they're no closer to not being there.

1:15 PM

Apollo is just sitting on his host, who is duct taped to the seat.

Pretty much

1:15 PM

Lyra/ lewd

Lewd was optional.

Lyra/ it was inevitable with that mental image

Just agitate the living snot out of her then

1:16 PM

Make her want to leave the chair and chase after you.

Once again

1:16 PM

That would not make her go inactive

1:16 PM

It would make her more active

My only serious advice knowing your system is to focus as much on your own sense of self as you can while un-involving your host as much as you can, with her trying her best not to mentally involve herself in anything.

That happens all the time anyway

Until she basically gets forgotten, as you so often hear tulpas being when inactive.

1:17 PM

Whether or not you think that'll work doesn't really matter because I have no other advice.

Yeah I try that all the time anyway

So basically have your host enter "the zone."

I'm going to bed. Hopefully not sleeping for at least another hour though.

Slep

Enjoy your bed, I guess.

Comfortable place to think and talk to the others.

Maybe if I merged my host with another tulpa, she would switch out /s

I guess so, I don't know what your bed is like.

Bed isn't exactly soft but isn't hard. Just normal spring stuff. It's plenty big and the blanket is amazing, and we've got a lot of pillows.

1:21 PM

but I #lounge, so good night.

Maybe if you merged with your host and assimilated their consciousness...

Maybe if you sneakily wake up in the morning before her you can hijack the body.

1:22 PM

Good luck with that I know you can do it !

I like that idea

Sounds like a terrible idea, and one we've had experience with so we know it doesn't actually work

Apollo most surely doesn't

Also I've tried that Tewi

I did my best to come up with an idea you would not like.

I neither believe in you or disbelieve in you, I just want to hear about the results!

Fair enough

I go to sleep voice calling my boyfriend every night

1:23 PM

My host still wakes up with the body, as ever

1:23 PM

Even if I'm still in control when waking up

We wake up with whoever was fronting the night before still switched in.

Sounds like it'd be a rather difficult task. Whoever falls asleep has always-

1:24 PM

Yeah, what Tewi said.

There was minor confusion just a few times when we were first getting used to it, after the initial weeks where only Lumi would wake up.

I mean I didn't think it'd be hard to stage a coup in your own mind and body.

Confusion was more like being in a state where we could choose who would front though, it wasn't bad.

1:25 PM

But it's automatic now.

It is Jack, we've tried many times

1:26 PM

Lol, we've had nights where somebody else is fronting each time we wake up, who knows why

Oh, I suppose there's been exceptions where someone else woke up than who was fronting.

Maybe you're just not doing it brutally enough. Go look up the history of disposition and get back to us after a few experimental trials.

Usually because they were the ones featured in the dream.

1:26 PM

That's been... Me, Flandre and Lucilyn I believe.

I guess they were just the first to respond to whatever stimuli woke us up (edited)

I don't have many dreams anymore. Mostly nightmares now. So I hope Nin9 doesn't feature in any of those.

We can't seemingly have nightmares.

Also, it seems you think I've been joking with these suggestions. Not even a single one was a joke.

Also, I've definitely had dreams where the "main character" was Lucilyn and not me.

1:28 PM

And of course the majority feature Lumi.

1:29 PM

In that context, it's a little strange I've woken up from dreams of "being Lucilyn" not confused a bit that I was myself.

I'm dead serious. Although I do have to practice being funny, I'm seriously trying to weigh in here.

@Jack o' Nin9's explain what you meant by "keeping charts and graphs"

Yeah, that's why I thought you were joking at first. Too vague.

Sounds more like work than a switching method (edited)

Although taking notes isn't my speciality, as I rarely saw the need to take them, when I do I take them well. When in need of a visual representation of results from an experiment, make a graph. When you need a visual representation of growth or time-based categorizing, make a chart.